If you can’t believe this you don’t have a problem. The difficulty arises once we start believing.
Belief is a can of worms.
you all know i was in the uk settling estate issues and that the elders 'wanted to chat with me".. well i left before they could have the meeting i arranged on my "free day".. they turned up at my mothers home and were livid that i had gone, but here is the kicker.. brother heavenly described me as a potential apostate for what i had done, which sent my brother over the edge and he demanded a retraction and apology which they quickly gave him.
he intends to speak with the co when he comes on the matter.. it gets better, elder ballbag actually said "apostates do more good for the congregation than they think.
they pull those who should not be part of the org and clean the congregation" .
If you can’t believe this you don’t have a problem. The difficulty arises once we start believing.
Belief is a can of worms.
first, don't laugh.
i'm not some adolescent teen that is confused about his relationship.
what i am going to relate here has become a maior hard ship and is really gnawing at me.
Re: Can you be in Love with two persons?
Love has no boundaries. If we are capable of love it is impossible to not be in love with any number of people.
However infatuation, lust and obsession are often mistaken for love.
i was following some links researching something to do with my condition when i came across this article by the well known christian author john piper called "don't waste your cancer".. if i had still been a christian when i got my diagnosis i would have been subjected to these sort of pious platitudes.
here are a few gems, read the full article if you wish but not on a full stomach.. .
cancer is not wasted when it is healed by god.
Christians choose to believe in a personal God. Many do not believe their God is responsible for our suffering. Some do and that is the point of contention. Logically, either the Christian God exists and is to blame; exists and is not to blame; or does not exist.
Those of us who do not believe such a God exists, have no need to become alarmed or angry if there are Christians who want to place the blame for suffering on their God. It is in a way an own goal.
nwt (new world translation of the holy scriptures) 1984. for wisdom is for a protection [the same as] money is for a protection; but the advantage of knowledge is that wisdom itself preserves alive its* owners.. does that make sense to anyone?
i understood what "wisdom preserves alive it's owner" means but never could find a place in logic for that other stuff.
because wisdom and the cost of wisdom is protected, knowledge excels, then wisdom makes alive it's owner.. .
You have to very careful where you put an apostrophe and how you punctuate!
A wrongly placed apostrophe can cause a great deal of upset and very unpleasant misunderstanding to innocent people who are simply seeking truth. Glad you raised this N'Dr.Ew.
i was following some links researching something to do with my condition when i came across this article by the well known christian author john piper called "don't waste your cancer".. if i had still been a christian when i got my diagnosis i would have been subjected to these sort of pious platitudes.
here are a few gems, read the full article if you wish but not on a full stomach.. .
cancer is not wasted when it is healed by god.
cofty It does seem that your experience of Christians had left you with a negative impresion; mine has been more positive.
As Terry would say, 'Your mileage may vary.'
i was following some links researching something to do with my condition when i came across this article by the well known christian author john piper called "don't waste your cancer".. if i had still been a christian when i got my diagnosis i would have been subjected to these sort of pious platitudes.
here are a few gems, read the full article if you wish but not on a full stomach.. .
cancer is not wasted when it is healed by god.
Not many Christians hold such an extreme view. They accept that phycical life in a body with feeling can bring both pleasure and pain.
I thought that BTS explained his position well om page one. I was touched by his comments.
just about the funniest thing i've read in ages!
*** w61 12/15 pp.
767-768 questions from readers ***.
As Time Goes By
You must remember this
A kiss is still a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by
And when two lovers woo
They still say, "I love you"
On that you can rely
No matter what the future brings
As time goes by
Moonlight and love songs
Never out of date
Hearts full of passion
Jealousy and hate
Woman needs man
And man must have his mate
That no one can deny
it's still the same old story
A fight for love and glory
A case of do or die
The world will always welcome lovers
As time goes by
many of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.
i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.
my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.
Some Bible writers claimed that they were inspired or spoke from God as they were born along by holy spirit. Alas, self praise is no man’s recommendation. Many Christians now reject the notion that the Bible is God’s word.
Trying to make sense of our present world by reading an ancient book will not work. Books such as the Bible will only help us understand ancient civilizations. They attributed all unknown phenomenon to mystical spirits and gods.
The Bible has value as a snapshot of their time. They tell us how people thousands of years ago thought, lived and how they made sense of their existence with the limited knowledge they had.
i have only ever heard this scripture described as the finish.
the interpretation that i was taught is that everlasing life would be granted from then and on to eternity.
and i was taught that the destruction meant the execution of the goats.. .
Hey! Take a look at what it says in my Bible.
Matthew 25
When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to all gladiators, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For you have fought with lions and been victorious. Enter into the kingdom of the heavens.
Amen
i used to go in service with a prominent elder in our area who would announce, regarding the 'truth' book in the 70's:.
"would you like to know the truth and gain everlasting life in just one day?
this book is divided into 24 chapters that can be studied in just an hour each.
I sat transfixed in the London assembly at Twickenham Stadium, as the speaker explained the reason for the book’s release. This small book had been designed so that a weekly study of just one hour covering one chapter a week would complete the book in six months.
All other Society books used in Bible studies with interested people were to be put aside. This was now the book to use. If those we studied with did not show definite signs of getting baptised after six months we were to forget them and move on. Why? Because time was running out - so many people to save and so little time!